The Dream Team
 

Has Anyone Heard Of This Comapany That Say They Can Show You How To Get 20-30 People In Your Downline Following Their Course And They Give A Six Month Gaurantee Are Your Money Back The Kicker Is Their Packages Or $999.00 -$699.00-and 299 Has Anyone Come Across These Guys As Being For Real Or Not.

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roaddog19

I have heard of them and all they are is another bottom feeder trying to get any network marketer or any mlm business person that is willing to let them feed off of you and the business you are trying to build.

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Yeah, I wanted to know too. Because it sounds very enticing... the free reports are pretty well written and have some very good, potent concepts as far as networking is concerned. I'd check it out but I don't have $300 to toss in the wind. Maybe we can get one of you really successful mlmers that like to fight for your opportunity here to do it... lol. Has anyone checked these guys' credibility?

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Can you post a link to one of their sites online? I think I know who these guys are, but there's so many groups that call themselves the Dream Team that I want to verify which one this is first.

-Mary
http://coachme4success.com

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The guys running this thing are Terry Duff and Gino Niccoli. They give you a free report when you enter your name email and phone #. 100kmlm is one of the sites. They bought up a bunch of "google ad words" like "mlm," "ACN," "Cognigen" and things that relate to downlines and such. So if you google "mlm" or "ACN," you'll find one of their sites in the ad words. It seems very scam-esque, but I really like what they said in the reports I read that reffered me to them at the end. Are these the same guys?

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ACN is a business in which you have to work your tail off to get any real residual... the more I analyze the comp plan, the more I realize the way reps make money is by signing up more reps and that bonus only pays out once. It takes a long long time to make money on your residual (Services) and overriding residual (team's services). At 1/4 of a percent, you do the math. It will take a long while to turn a buck soley based on those residuals. You make money (thousands of dollars) in the current month by signing up more people. then, next month if you don't sign anybody up, you're back to your $50 check for your residuals...

I do believe in ACN it is a right solid company right now and it's doing a lot of the right things to stay in business (i.e. doubling revenue from 300 to 600 million dollars in 2 years, the addition of cellular, ect.). I only posed the question for guys like jvaldez and the coolaid-aholics to give an opinion and make them think about it, because I am and I like hearing other people's thoughts. It better be considered... check out the last line of my post... if you got a noodle you stay up to date on the industry you're marketing in and you'll always be assessing and planning for future possibilities. If the Excel people are homeless now because of loosing excel, they were doing it wrong anyway... you never put all your eggs in one basket...

To answer your question... You buy up the stock while it's low and hot and it's going to shoot through the roof, if you're holding stock that's gonna drop... you get rid of it before you loose money. ACN has too many things going for it right now for me not to market with them... but always anticipate what could happen in the future, that's why there's 401k's and life insurance.. you always need to be prepared....

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I'm very intrigued by the dreamteam also it sounds good but I don't even know what they offer me for my money that I can't already figure out.

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The most of them-yes, but not all of them ! Try this one:
www.moneyabout.da.ru

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I listened to one of the Dream Team's teleconferences, last night. I've been a coach and mentor to network marketers for several years, now. Personally, I was not impressed. The person who called me affirmed the 100% money back guarantee, but, apparently, I could not see the guarantee in detail until I enrolled. It seems to me that they are preying on peoples' frustrations in an attempt to seperate them from more money for the promise of instant success. They also seem to be attempting to create a dependency on them by driving a wedge between the enrollees and their company leadership. In addition to that, they made sure to point out that you could resell the program to others. Hmm.... resale of a "training program" with the opportunity to put a substantial amount of that signup fee in your pocket? Sounds like a very gray area to me.
My questions are: Why would I need them when I can get training from other industry-related training sites for free? Is the secret of success they sell simply the opportunity to sell the secret to others?
When I look at it analytically, I don't see anything but snake oil. There are simply too many resources out there which are free, or a lot less expensive, for me to see the logic of shelling out a grand for a pig in a poke. Folks, success does not come in a box. You have to grow it in your heart.
Be good, be ethical, be sincere
Hawke

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What I find interesting is that as far as I can tell, there is no proof these guys have made multi-millions of dollars building downlines. Now, if I'm going to pay someone to teach me I would go with someone I personally know, Jeffrey Combs, http://www.goldenmastermind.com/ (who has tapes, books and seminars a whole lot less than what the Dream Team offers and they are all very very good) or Mike Connaway, wdbay.net another guy I know that is a great motivator and teacher. Again, he has tapes and seminars that are a lot less than Dream Team. Lisa Kitter, http://tinyurl.com/56l2p, she has some tapes that are great for lady marketers.

These Dream Team guys are iffy, iffy, iffy in my opinion. You'll get more from Jeffrey's &qu$ot;The Animal Factor" or Lisa's "Prospecting with Posture" (free teleconference training) or Mike's "The Entreprenuer" for anywhere from $15.00 to $200 with free downloads available on each site, than dishing out money to The Dream Team. Sheesh, who ever heard of an MLM to teach people how to prosper in MLM?

JMO

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Hi So,
I'm with you. Of the three you mentioned, Coombs is the only one I'm familiar with, and he is an excellent speaker and source for info. In all of my checking around about the DreamTeam, I have nothing to verify the money they claim to make either. It has a lot of the earmarks of a service camouflaged pyramid.
Regards,
Hawke

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These guys are absolutely for real - in fact I've been taking their training. They tell it the way it is - most MLM/Network companies sell you the pipe dream - just follow the system and do what your upline does and you'll get rich too - well if that's the case then why do more than 90%+ fail without ever seeing a dime -

The Companies create their business plans for themselves to be successful - they play the numbers with the associate base - you will never really have big success unless you position yourself in the same respects. The Dream team gives you REAL hands on training to what it takes to be successful.

These guys have more integrity in their education than most of the companies in the industry - if you are truly serious about having the success you set out to have when you first started - YOU MUST get this information.
It's actually worth a whole lot more than what the asking price is.

Call me and I'll help you make it happen - 631.744.3981

Alan Kaplan :)

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one other thing - All those other guru's you speak of - that you can get the same info for free - you're missing the deal - those guys tell you what to do - The Dream team actually trains you HANDS ON and accessible of HOW to do it. Huge difference - all you can say is these guys are good speakers -

If you're going to analyze someting - at least make sense - there is a distinct differene between passively listening to someone reiterate the same stuff over and over with no practical application , then someone who is actually there with you in the trench getting it done.
Wake up - all those gurus get out on Calls and the last half hour of their talk they're peddaling their products - if you can't see that - well......

Amazing how clearly you have no idea what you're saying

Article on Dream Team
 

I recently wrote an article on Dream Team as Editor of The Home Business Review Magazine

I'm an extremely methodical person....and very skeptical. I evaluate businesses for a living, and have been an industry consultant and coach since 1995.

To comment on a something said earlier, Dream Team does not try to create a wedge between you and your upline or company's training program.

One of the biggest fallacies I see among network marketers is viewing themselves as a representative of a company, rather than as a business owner who uses a particular company as their supplier. This is a very different mindset.

The reason Dream Team teaches concepts that may be different from what you've been taught is because:

1. Many people are taught a rote approach, whether it is proven or not. I can remember moving to a new city and knowing nobody. I consulted with my upline who told me that one of the things he did was calling reps with Yellow Page listings. To say that was a waste of time would be an understatement. When I told him of my lack of response, he said, "Well, that never worked for me either, but it was one of the things I was taught by my upline."

2. You learn how to brand YOU - not your company. These are strategies I've never seen companies' teach.

3. You learn how to develop positioned leads, not the "land of the dead broke and brain dead" from biz op leads lists.

I've reached Instructor status for both Dream Team and my Financial Freedom Society business. I am so impressed with their training that I make it available to my entire group at my cost....so I'm not in it for the money. I know that if they apply the principles they learn, I'll make my money because they are making money and growing their businesses.

Click here to read the full review at The Home Business Review Magazine

Debbi Bressler, Editor
The Home Business Review Magazine

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Yeah.I saw the Dream Team site so I enguired about more info.They wouldn't really tell me more then I wanted of what I wanted to know like hidden cost.What all would I need.If you think about it,it's just another pyramid scheme.They must think I'm that stupid.I been thru alot of scams in my day.My older sister even more then me.The only thing that even works decent for me is Melaleuca,but I only been in it for 3 months.I'll always be their customer regardless of making money.I do care about toxins in my house so.I do think thet clean better and last longer,cost per use.Anyway I asked the guy if he could send me papers in writing with all he told me about getting my money back and stuff so my lawyer could go over it.He said he couldn't until I gave my credit card over and it would come with the kit.I said no papers first.I'm not stupid.He said my lawyer could just look on the website to see disclaimer and stuff.That isn't good enough.He also its a copy right issue.Yeah right.Even Melaleuca was willing to accomidate me when I asked for papers.If they won't do that much,then you know it's a scam.I only spent $29.00 to start my Melaleuca business too,not $299.00,$699.,or $999.00.Beware!!!!

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Oh yeah.The Dream Team I'm referring too is the one with Terry Duff and Gino Niccoli,the Founders.I know many have that Dream Team name,so I thought I would clarify that.The ones I'm talking about have many websites as well.Becareful.They are everywhere on the net.

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Hi Belinda,

I, like you, love the Melaleuca products. I was a customer for about five years until I moved to Orlando from Texas.

How long have you been in business? Do you have a 25+ business background? Have you ever done a three week exhaustive investigation of companies? As a Home Business Consultant, I do just that for a living.

It's unfortunate that you talked to someone who was not able to accommodate you. However, to take that as verifiable that something is a scam is pretty short sighted. And, by the way, I've printed off material on web sites to be reviewed by legal counsel; it's not a big deal.

I happened to join Dream Team for the training for my primary company and I've been certified as an Instructor for my primary company because I've applied their principles and they worked. I do not even work this as a business, although I've had some people sign up after they've seen all the new ideas I was able to implement.

Also, you mentioned that Melaleuca cost $29 to join. That is correct. However, once you get to director you will need to purchase 75 BP per month. I know many Melaleuca reps. This will cost you in the neighborhood of $135 per month, including shipping and handling. $135 x 12 months = $1,620 a year.

Using an average of 7% per customer (based on 35 BP), you earn approximately $2.45 per customer. At 35BP, you need 25 customers / reps at 7% EACH month to cover your product costs, including shipping and handling. Obviously, to cover the 75BP requirement as a Director would require many more people.

Dream Team may cost more to start; however, I recouped my cost and put money in my pocket the first week.

Let's look at the five year cost using the example above:

Melaleuca
Year 1 - 1620
Year 2 - 1620
Year 3 - 1620
Year 4 - 1620
Year 5 - 1620
Total - $8,100

Dream Team - highest level possible
Year 1 - $999
Year 2 - 0
Year 3 - 0
Year 4 - 0
Year 5 - 0
Total - $999

Over a five year period Melaleuca will cost $7,101 more.

I would think that someone who intimates they paid an attorney to look over papers for a $29 biz op buy in, would not jump to conclusions quickly.

You also mentioned that they were all over the Internet - so what? Are you familiar with "The Mom Team" with Melaleuca?

Did you know that if you put "the mom team"+"scam" into Google, you get 1,100 replies? The Mom Team is all over the Internet.

Does that mean that Melaleuca, by association, is a scam? Certainly not!

Again, I think Melaleuca is wonderful. In fact, I just put a notice on a board for a Mela rep for my mom, who ordered over $120 worth of products to stock up. My example was just to show that there are many more ways to look at figures than the example you gave and that inflamatory statements you make can be turned around and also applied to your company, as well as many others.

Warm regards,

Debbi Bressler, Editor
The Home Business Review Magazine

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First off,I'm not just a Melaleuca rep,I'm a customer.I easily spend $150.00 a month on cleaning supplies I need from them.I easily surpass 75 points a month.It only cost $80.00 to $100.00 to make 75 points depending on what you buy.No big deal.I still save money compared to almost $200.00 I was spending before using store brands.Not to mention cost per use.The products last me longer too then store brands.You must remember that you are simply "switching stores".I don't even look at the points I'm using most of the time.I just get what I need for that month.So no matter what I spend on products doesn't have anything to do with the business end of it.I'm not paying to play like with MLM business.I'm just spending my money on things I need that I would be doing anyway except now on safer better products.Even if I never made a dime on this company,I'd still be a customer for life.I love their products.I feel if you don't think you would still be a customer no matter what,then you should definately not be having a business with them to begin with.I been in Melaleuca for 3 months and doing very well.I been thru many MLM scams and other types of work at home scams.I been in sales for 13 years as well.I know when something isn't right.Yes.I have done exhaustive,thorough search on companies.I'm smart about things.By the way,I don't have to pay for a lawyer because he's a friend of the family:).Plus he's a very good high paying lawyer other wise.Melaleuca had no problems sending me papers on there contract,rules,and money back guarantee.Dream Team wouldn't do that until I gave them my credit card number.It seems obivous to me.Plus I use common sense as well as my lawyer even knowing better.They probably don't even teach anything I haven't already heard in all my years of training.MomsWin has around the clock trainging and support for Melalueca reps all free.Why would I pay $1000.00 for something I don't know I will see my money back for or even know what they teach.I don't even have that kind of money to throw away.I have a baby to buy for too.I been thru many scams that they said money back guarantee and never saw my money back.In conclusion,until they can produce papers before I hand my card over without lame excuses to why they can't,I'm not going to be stupid enough to go for it.They are apart of Amway I found out too so no thanks.I did Amway years ago when I was stupid.Not making that mistake again.

WAHM and Loving It,

Belinda

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Hi Debbie,
Thank you for your response. You made several good points, most of which I agree with. I really liked the one in particular about distributors needing to view themselves as business owners rather than as reps for the company they're with. That's probably one of the most crucial keys to defining themselves as their own brand. The rote approach, or as I call it, the lemming method, is probably the key factor for so many failures in this industry. Take out the Leader and the whole thing runs off of a cliff. A business needs to be owned by an owner, not a follower. An owner needs, for his or her own reasons, to learn how to run their business. I try at every opportunity, to help my folks think outside of the box. I never, ever, tell them to do something just because I was told to do it. I always "smoke test" something myself before I recommend it. If that's what Dream Team teaches, I'm all for it. I wish I'd had a chance to talk to you about it.
My biggest problem with the whole thing was that the girl that prospected me was obviously reading from a script, refused to answer my concerns and questions, and got evasive and combative when I tried to pin her down on some key points. If she's a product of their system, I'm not impressed. None of her mentors were "in the trenches" with her when I spoke with her. With her obvious inexperience, someone should have been. I'd have been fine with it if she simply took note of my concerns, answered honestly what she could, and gotten back with me later on the ones she couldn't, either with or without her mentor. The impression I was left with after hearing the presentation and trying to ask her questions was that they are preying on doubt and suspicion in the minds of their prospects to sell the system. After I spend a day out in the field helping my people, why would I want to present to them a system that casts aspersions on me and my motivations? Why not sell the system on the merits of the system and the people that developed it, rather than by casting doubt on the training systems of other companies? Why could I not see the money-back guarantee before I spent my money? Why does the company not have any income disclosure that I could find, even though they are required by law in 23 states in the U.S.? If you want to sell me something, find out what my needs are and show me how this program can answer them. Don't try and sell me something based on why you think I should buy it. I've been in sales for a long time. That's not the way to win long term customer and client loyalty.
In the network marketing industry, we, as business people, have a moral, ethical, and legal obligation to present ourselves with openess, honesty, and full disclosure of supporting data in regard to any guarantees or claims we make. The biggest reason why our industry suffers the scorn that is does is because of the flim-flam artists and opportunists that use any opportunity they can to make a quick buck, regardless of who they hurt in the process. As for the Dream Team, I'm not closed to the notion that it's a good thing. My first exposure to it left me with a lot of unanswered concerns.
Thanks,
Hawke

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Belinda,

I'll respond one last time and then I'm done with this conversation.

"Dream Team wouldn't do that until I gave them my credit card number."

Did DT corporate tell you that, or the rep you talked to? I suspect it was the rep.

"They probably don't even teach anything I haven't already heard in all my years of training.MomsWin has around the clock trainging and support for Melalueca reps all free."

The top producers in this - or any industry - will tell you that you never stop learning. If you think you know everything already, why did you bother to learn more about DT to begin with?

I've been an entrepreneur for 15 years, have earned in excess of six figures per year, am an author, coach, consultant, and trainer. And, I still learned some things I could apply to my business. Was everything new to me? No. But, I learned enough new things to make a major difference in my business. All I can tell you is that, since joining in July 2004, my business has almost doubled. Specifically, it has grown 97.78%.

"Why would I pay $1000.00 for something I don't know I will see my money back for or even know what they teach. I been thru many scams that they said money back guarantee and never saw my money back."

I can certainly understand your hesitancy is you've been scammed before and not gotten money back from a guarantee. What would you say to me if I said I didn't want to join your Melaleuca business because I didn't get my money back when I tried the product from another company? It's no different.

Would it be fair to think Melaleuca was a scam just because another company didn't follow thru on their guarantee?

Secondly, I suggest most people start with the Basic Package, not the $999 package. They can always upgrade from their increased earnings. And, as far as not knowing what they teach, did you attend the roundtable call, which runs approximately six hours over two evenings? This goes into extreme detail about what is covered.

"I don't even have that kind of money to throw away."

Although I agree that nobody has that kind of money to throw away, I would suspect that you may not have the money even if you believed in it. Hopefully, all that free training you get from your team will help you have that kind of disposable income some day.

"They are apart of Amway I found out too so no thanks.I did Amway years ago when I was stupid.Not making that mistake again."

This comment is why I won't bother responding any further. Nothing could be further from the truth. Gino and Terry do have multiple income streams, but Amway is not one of them.

Belinda, I stated facts in my reply. In fact, I made a point to say what great products Melaleuca produced. But, your comments are very close-minded and shrill, and have no facts to back up the accusations you make. Therefore, it is pointless to continue this debate.

Best of luck to you,

Debbi Bressler, Editor
The Home Business Review Magazine

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Hi Hawke,

You and I think alike on this. People need to brand themselves - it is crucial for long term wealth. And, yes, Dream Team, does teach this concept, although I also have taught this for many years.

I just posted an interesting article at The Home Business Review Magazine today regarding someone who announced to the world that they hated network marketing. Check out the article if you have a minute; it ties in to what you were talking about.

I totally agree with you about people making calls who are ill-prepared. Makes you want to cringe, huh? But, unfortunately, all companies have them.

Here's the way I see it Hawke. What is the point about lying to someone when they're going to learn the truth when they join? My whole business has been built on credibility and intregrity....and I'm sure not going to let that go down the drain to make a few bucks. You can ask me anything and I'll tell you the truth. And, if I don't have the answer, I'll get it.

As far as casting doubt on training systems of other companies, let me give you a little background and maybe you can understand what they mean by this. We just talked about the need to brand yourself and view the company as a supplier. Their thoughts are along the lines of branding yourself, rather than concentrating on edifying your upline, as well as some prospecting techniques that benefit uplines and companies (because of economies of scale), while providing marginal success to an individual rep.

The money back guarantee is on their web site, so I have no clue why the person you talked to didn't send you there.

Your comments about openess, honesty, etc. strikes a chord with me. That's the reason I started my magazine. (Read my article on fake review sites.)

In the "old" days, if I told you I was a huge success and you saw my car was held together with duct tape, that would be a clue! People can hide well on the Internet and people assume they are reading the truth until they've gotten burned a few times. Then they disregard everything, even if it is the truth. It's a sad situation.

Hawke, you're welcome to give me a call at 407-208-1441 if you'd like to chat. I'll be glad to answer your questions.

In addition, you mindset is very similar to mine. I don't know what company you are with, but I would be interested in, perhaps, profiling your company on my site. Please email me separate at debbi AT profitcoaches DOT com
if you're interested. (Note Debbi doesn't have an e!).

Warm regards,

Debbi Bressler, Editor
The Home Business Review Magazine

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Okay, after talking to two reps in Dream Team that were actually knowledgable about the program, I'm a bit more at ease about it. I have seen the money back guarantee, without having to buy in or give my credit card number, so it appears that the problems were based on the inexperience of the person who approached me with the program. As for the two reps I spoke with, they were down to earth and answered my questions and concerns without hype, smoke, and mirrors. I'm not sure the program is one I'm personally interested in, however, there seem to be some pretty level heads with the organisation.

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What in the hell is a well respected magazine editor involving herself with a very questionable company?


How much is Melalueca paying you to give them good PR?

Dumbexperts

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dear dumb dumb
this reply is DITTO to my mentors reply. freakin' LOSER! :mad:

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One thing you missed on.I did talk about how they wanted your credit card first before offering proof that they will give your money back.Melaleuca was more then happy to give me papers about their contract,rules,and everything in writing for my lawyer,who is free for me,to look at BEFORE I joined.Dream Team wouldn't do that.I do good with Melaleuca alone,but hey who couldn't use more money,and get it faster.Nothing wrong with being modivated to want to get a leg up if possible.The rep lied to me when I said I heard a few hang up calls during the presentation when they mention the package prices.The rep lied and said it was only a couple hang ups,and I heard more then a couple.I was making the point how am I to recruit those who want to spend that kind of money at once.You see what I mean about honesty?I also didn't like the way the rep kept saying "well when you are serious about making money and working your business then let me know" because I didn't even have the money up front for even the small package.I also wanted proof as well.Being serious and having the money to start are 2 totally differnt things.I do have a family to provide for.If that is a product of their training on their reps then I definately don't want to be apart of it.I don't believe in pushing people into doing things too.Oh and the rep was the one who told me the Dream Team does alot of business with Amway.It isn't the first I heard this from.I heard it before from others too so.Just wanted to make it clear on my reasons. Belinda

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I would love to invite all of the skeptics to a roundtable call in 2 weeks. Please let me know your contact info and I'll get you the details you need(including guarantees in writing).

Make it a great day!
Michael

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Belinda - you are so far out in left field that if anyone listens to you they'll be out of the ball park - you talk about how your melaluca training is so great and free - and you can't even afford to pay for the DT training - if your training is so wonderful why are you broke - you're just some cranky person who has had no success, so you spend your time criticizing those who do have success - go away - all you do is confuse people -

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Funny. I still haven't heard from any skeptics about the roundtable calls yet. Calling all skeptics to next weeks calls. You will have the opportunity to hear from Terry and Gino what they teach in great detail for almost 6 hours. Let me know when your ready to hear the truth.

PM me.
Bravo

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These guys rock!! I may be a little bit biased but they have an absolutely incredible way of teaching you how to explode your business without burning thousands of gallons of gas and giving away thousands of DVD's. They truly teach you how to stack the numbers in your favor. The best part is that they have a truly duplicatable system. Don't knock it till you try it.

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Rock on Platinum Marketer!

Bravo

Re: The Dream Team
 

Well you are dead wrong...lol.I'm making pretty good money this month in Melaleuca.It's only been almost 4 months now since I started.However who wouldn't want to get money faster and get ahead quicker?Everyone I know would no matter what their business is.I know you do as much as me.It doesn't mean I'm going to throw away good money on something that I'm not sure of.Especially when the rep can't answer half my questions.Maybe you are the cranky one because you were scammed to much.All I know is I'm smart about things.Please use your head and think before you speak.Other wise you are just putting your foot in your mouth.Thank you and have a nice day.

Re: The Dream Team
 

Debbi,

I don't know anything about Dream Team, but it sounds like something that might benefit any network marketer, no matter what business they represent. However, comparing it to Melaleuca is like comparing apples and oranges.

I don't want to get a Melaleuca debate started here in the Dream Team thread, but your example of a Director is not entirely accurate.


Just a couple of things here. It used to be 75 BP, but is now 70 BP for Directors and above. Although most of my orders are more than 75 BP, and sometimes 100+ BP, I have done a 75 BP order for around $124. For 70 BP, it could be done for a little less. However, I'll just use the $124. $124 x 12 months = $1,488

Actually, after doing these figures at $124 per 75 BP order, I randomly clicked on a few of my invoices, and found even lower ones. I actually had a 78 BP order that was only $84.84. These are not necessarily highest or lowest for
number of BP...only a random sampling of my orders.

75 BP - $114.54
75 BP - $121.72
75 BP - $122.48
75 BP - $124.78
75 BP - $127.64
75 BP - $129.87
75 BP - $136.75

76 BP - $131.65

77 BP - $128.70
77 BP - $129.86
77 BP - $144.64

78 BP - $84.84
78 BP - $132.75
78 BP - $133.07
78 BP - $144.39

80 BP - $156.26

16 Orders averaging 76.5 BP
16 Orders averaging $128.99
Lowest 75 BP Order - $114.54
Lowest Order - 78 BP - $84.84

All are total invoice costs including shipping. Totals for monthly requirement vary depending on which products are ordered.


This is not a fair example, because it is not even possible. First, you are using $1,620 a year for Director status, which could actually be around $124 per month, for a total of $1,488. If they are at this status, and are required to purchase 70 BP, then commissions are higher. It is not possible to be a Director and get paid only 7% on all orders.

If the person is a Director, a VERY MINIMUM of 8 of these 35 customers were personally enrolled, and paid at the 14% rate. If as many as 12 of these 35 customers were personally enrolled, the rate on those would be 17%. If as many as 16 of the 35 were personally enrolled, the rate on those would be 20%.

Another thing, of 35 customers, it would be very unlikely that none ordered more than the minimum 35 BP. Average BP for my organization ranges between 46 and 56 each month, so let's assume an average right down the middle, which would be 51. I believe this is very close to the average for the company. I have one Director that orders around 300 BP each month. I have "just customers" at the 35 BP level who sometimes order 100+ BP per month.

Assuming that the VERY MINIMUM of 8 of these customers were personally enrolled, qualifying the person for Director status, commissions would be 14% per customer for 8 customers at an average BP of 51 for each customer. Earnings would be 7% on the remaining 27 of those customers.

8 personally enrolled x 51 BP x 14% rate = $57.12 per month on 8 personally enrolled
27 other customers x 51 BP x 7% rate = $96.39 per month on others
35 Total Customers

$57.12 + $96.39 = $153.51 Monthly Commission

$153.51 Commissions
-124.00 Cost of products

$ 31.51 Commission above cost of products per month

The number would actually be higher than this considering the one time higher commission rate on first month orders of personally enrolled, which I have not added in.

Assuming this business stayed at exactly 35 customers for five years:

Year 1 - Purchased $1,488 in products and Received $1842.12 in Commissions
Year 2 - Purchased $1,488 in products and Received $1842.12 in Commissions
Year 3 - Purchased $1,488 in products and Received $1842.12 in Commissions
Year 4 - Purchased $1,488 in products and Received $1842.12 in Commissions
Year 5 - Purchased $1,488 in products and Received $1842.12 in Commissions
Total - Purchased $7,440 in products and Received $9,210.60 in commissions

The $7,440 was spent on replacement consumable products that the customer was already buying anyway. $9,210.60 was earned.

Again, if 12 of these 35 were personally enrolled, the commissions increase to 17%. If 16 of these 35 were personally enrolled, the commissions increase to 20%.

16 personally enrolled x 51 BP x 20% rate = $163.20
19 other customers x 51 BP x 7% rate = $67.83
35 Total Customers

$163.20 + $67.83 = $231.03 Monthly Commission

$231.03 Commissions
- 124.00 Cost of products

$107.03 Commission above cost of products per month

Assuming this business stayed at exactly 35 customers for five years:

Year 1 - Purchased $1,488 in products and Received $2,772.36 in commissions
Year 2 - Purchased $1,488 in products and Received $2,772.36 in commissions
Year 3 - Purchased $1,488 in products and Received $2,772.36 in commissions
Year 4 - Purchased $1,488 in products and Received $2,772.36 in commissions
Year 5 - Purchased $1,488 in products and Received $2,772.36 in commissions
Total - Purchased $7,440 in products and Received $13,861.80 in commissions

The $7,440 was spent on replacement consumable products that the customer was already buying anyway. $13,861.80 was earned.

These examples do not even take into account 10% rebate on all purchases added to account, 100% rebate on shipping of orders 76 BP and above, or other bonuses. We are talking bare minimum here.

But...getting back to the very minimum in the first 35 customer example, instead of costing a person $1620 a year, as you said, this person has spent $1,488 in replacements for household products that they are already spending money on (not new money), and made $9,210.60 in commissions. Big difference.

Although the Dream Team may teach concepts that will allow you to excel in any business, it is new money...it is not replacing necessities that money is already being spent on.

Maybe a person could use the Dream Team concept to explode their Melaleuca business to Executive or Corporate Director! :) Then we're talking way too much for my tired brain to compute here! :)

Re: The Dream Team
 

Thank you BrendaKC for helping to explain where I was coming from with the money issue.By the way my sister is named Brenda too:).Anyway from one Melaleuca rep to another,I appreciate you explaining further about the concept of what I was trying to expalin myself.I hope that helped others understand where we are at in the business end of it.

Re: The Dream Team
 

I didn't see any place free. Me, I'm also interrested by Dream Team and the other side, I'm also afraid to lose my money. However, one things is true, 90% of the people in MLM lose money instead of earn anough to reach their dreams...
If some free training place on internet exist...and are able to show me how I can make money with a MLM company without speak with my family and friends...

Re: The Dream Team
 

Glad to help, Belinda. I've seen Usana and a couple other nutritional companies do a similar type comparison to Melaleuca to make it appear that you would make more with their companies. And none of them ever take in account all the other ways (is it 13 or 17?) that we get paid on top of base commissions, not to mention increases as we progress to higher Director levels.

It's hard to convey to anyone what we see in this business. They just don't get it until they have actually experienced it. I've known people that turned down Melaleuca many times, and then decided to give it a try. It was just a matter of time til they were kicking themselves for not doing it when they first heard about it. I know one person whose friend tried to get him to give it a try every month for 2 years. He finally did. As of a couple of years ago, he had received some monthly checks right at $50,000, and has probably received larger ones since then.

You made some good points, and are still new. It will get easier to spot and explain erroneous comparisons after you've been around for a while. :) The important thing is, "you got it". You see the value of this company, and understand what it is about. I love receiving that check every month, but like you, even if I never made another dime, I would never give up my Mela products!

Re: The Dream Team
 

Let me tell you Melaleuca is not like MLM like Amway, it's more CDM Consumer Direct Marketing.It's similair in some ways to MLM, but you aren't a distributer.You don't buy for anyone.but your family the things you already use everyday.They give you around the clock support and training by phone and computer free with one of the support teams that represent Melaleuca like MomsWin.There's no risk to even try them out or travel to meetings.They cost money usually anyway.Seems simple and makes sense to me.I looked around and tried almost everything in the past.A lot were scams and some just not lugrative.I know from experience that a good business is one that has a product or service that everyone wants or needs at competative prices which Melaleuca exceeds.Not to mention safer for your family and saves you money.When I started this business, it actually changed my life by giving me safer products to use and helping me educating moms on this.I'm an Lactation Consultant that help other moms breastfeed their babies.It seemed this went along with me helping moms.I do that free by the way:).We don't use scare tactics either to get people to try the products like Neways does.I found out some stuff thats in their products are not anyting that is better off then what you got in the store.It was to make a sale basically.We don't do that.Melaleuca is an honest, ethical,moral comapny that I'm [proud to represent.In fact you can go to any enviromental website or even some medical sites and use keywords like toxic home cleaners or whatever.A bunch of sites will come up showing you what's in them and how it affects you.They don't teach you to sell.I hate selling.You just be yourself and talk from the heart when your with others by casually telling them and educating them about toxins in their homes.You must be a customer first so you know if you even like the products and even have a testimony of your own about how they helped you before going into business with it.Why would you refer others to soemthing you don't like or believe in right?It's moms telling moms like we do with something everyday.It's word of mouth.It's the way Melaleuca likes it.They only want good honest customers and business builders.I know a good thing when I see it.There's so much more to it but too much to type.If you want more info just PM me.Thanks.I hope that helped you a little bit.

Re: Stop with the lies!!
 

Look, you need to stop with the lies and misinformation. If Melaleuca is more like Consumer Direct Marketing. It sure doing a terrible Job at it. The fact is that it is a MLM wheather you like it or not.

Why the number of negitive reports at the the Ripoff Report?

Why the number of employee's and ex-employee's misrepresenting the company on the Ripoff report?

Why in the hell are Melaleuca reps lying to people to get them to join?

Why is the DSA protecting Rogue companies and their reps and keeping consumers from the truth?

Why did Joe Jones have to question Mr Vandersloot's ethics when Mr Vandersloot's claimed that his company was not MLM and all MLM's are scams? Even Joe Jones recommends avoiding the company like the plague.
http://whowho911.com/messages/2145.html

Why has Meleleuca not taken action against rogue company Representatives and teams?



I am tired of hearing Melaleuca reps spewing nothing but sales pitch prooaganda and misrepresenting their company On how the products are safe and nontoxic when they are not safe to begin with

Proof is right here Consumer Complaints About Cosmetic Products
1996 Annual Report. http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/costop96.html

Dumbexperts

Re: The Dream Team
 

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Re: The Dream Team
 

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